8-23-22 – By Gary Morgan – @garymo2007 on Twitter
I’ve heard everything from they should spend 30 million more to not expecting them to spend a dime. Predicting that is just a waste of time, so instead, let’s really sit here and try to figure out what the team could look like if they don’t add from outside.
Take this for what it is, I’m not telling you I see them choosing to go get nothing, I’m simply eliminating a variable so we can have a rational discussion somewhere short of suggestions they go get Tim Anderson.
Outfield
Good place to start because the field is competitive to say the least. In our little petri dish we’ve created for this discussion, we have to assume Ben Gamel is gone. Technically a free agent, I can’t consider him “here”.
That leaves Bryan Reynolds, Greg Allen, Tucupita Marcano, Cal Mitchell, Bligh Madris, Canaan Smith-Njigba, Matt Gorski, Matt Fraizer, Travis Swaggerty, Jack Suwinski and Ji-hwan Bae.
That’s 11 players, all with a real shot. I can rank them I suppose, but the best thing to do really is say, Reynolds is a lock and all the rest are fighting over at best 3 more spots, 4 if you count DH as a spot.
I think it’s really easy to say they could upgrade the position via free agency, but it might be hard to do so and get enough at bats for the players who still make it from this list.
If I were forced to guess about opening day, and why not, let’s go ahead and make this a 26-man guess shall we? I’d go with Reynolds, Marcano, Swaggerty, Suwinski.
If you want a 5th, I’d have to go Bae, if only because his versatility could get him more ABs.
If we just look at defensive prowess, Reynolds, Marcano, Swaggerty, Suwinski, Bae all have a nice track record.
First Base
Michael Chavis.
That’s the list. I mean technically they could go with Bligh Madris and in the spirit of this piece, that’s who we’ll go with too, but it’s such a clear spot of need it’s hard to do this with a straight face. But I’m typing not talking so you can’t see me smirking.
In all sincerity though, Michael has been very good at first base. He has physical limitations but he’s learned to do more with his frame than I’ve seen countless 6’7″ behemoths do.
I’m pulling for Madris to prove he can be a real option, but the longer he goes the more he looks like a borderline MLB player and at 26, his audition isn’t going well. If he’s 22 you probably view him through a different lens.
You of course have Mason Martin and Malcom Nuñez but its hard for me to know how much they should be taken seriously heading into next year. I certainly think either or both could get a look in 2023, but again, if I’m the Pirates I’m not leaving this position up to chance.
Third Base
Ke’Bryan Hayes is one of the only truly rock solid members of the Pirates after signing his extension this year. We’ve also yet to experience a season in which we didn’t have to have someone else play there for a stretch.
So we’re going to name the next options if only because it’s going to factor in on who gets the nod to make the club. Rodolfo Castro and Diego Castillo are the most likely for extended lost playing time or rest.
I’d elaborate but there are like 70 million dollars that make me not bother.
Middle Infield
If I overthink this I could come up with some whacky combinations, but I’m going to go with what I think makes sense as the starters. Oneil Cruz and Kevin Newman.
We already spent considerable time talking about the outfield but there is some crossover for options. Bae, Marcano, Castillo, Castro, and a chance at some point Nick Gonzales and Liover Peguero will make their case.
They have Hoy Park but I believe they’ll move on. I think they’ll keep 4 or 5 of these guys so for me it would be Cruz, Newman, Castro, Marcano, Castillo.
If they fill the outfield and middle infield with guys like Marcano, Castillo, and Bae they can almost get a 2 for 1 deal and that’s good stuff.
Catcher
As with first base, not getting one in free agency would be lunacy, but that’s not our task so let’s move on.
Jason Delay, Tyler Heineman, Carter Bins, Blake Sabol, and yes I’m gonna do it, Endy Rodriguez, he’s been that good.
Again, even if I thought Endy or Henry Davis for that matter were a lock to make it, I’d still recommend getting a veteran, and I absolutely think they will. I also think by mid season they might be hard pressed to keep Endy from making his debut.
Starting Rotation
This is another area where the team could and should spend.
Roansy Contreras, Mitch Keller, JT Brubaker, there, those are the 3 I think we should be fairly confident will be back and starting. Beyond that you have Bryse Wilson, Zach Thompson, Johan Oviedo, Tyler Beede, Miguel Yajure backed by Mike Burrows, Cody Bolton, and Quinn Priester.
Some of those guys are more mid season dreams, some of those guys are more bullpen options if you ask me. Either way I see them having little choice but to add here.
Still, feeling pretty good about 3 of the starters is a bit better than I felt heading into this year, so all in all, they’ve done some heavy lifting in 2022 to build some semblance of a competent rotation.
Relievers
I really do think Beede, Thompson, maybe even Wilson could all end up in the pen, but I’m confident they’re all MLB pitchers.
David Bednar, Manny Bañuelos, Duane Underwood Jr., Dillon Peters, Yerry De Los Santos, Nick Mears, Blake Cederlind, Colin Holderman, Wil Crowe, Jeremy Beasley, Yohan Ramirez, outside shot at JC Flowers, Joe Jacques, Tahnaj Thomas.
Bullpens evolve, I have every confidence they’ll go get more, and as we see year over year, they’ll need more.
All in all, the makings of a decent pen are there. A lefty who can get leverage outs is a big need I’d say, but aside from two poor outings, Bañuelos has made a case for getting a shot.
Conclusion
There are areas where the team should spend money, but more than anything they need to keep developing and infusing more talent.
For instance, the team could certainly improve if they went and got a solid right handed outfield bat. If they went and got someone like AJ Pollack for a year or two I wouldn’t be up in arms, but man, I don’t know how you get at bats for all these kids. Maybe you assume injury or poor performance, but if that poor performance is Reynolds or Pollack let’s be real, they aren’t sitting.
First base on the other hand, well who are you blocking? Malcom Nunez or Mason Martin? Well, they have some work to do before that matters and even if they make it and push aside Chavis and whomever you sign, ok.
Look, all I’m saying is add, but be smart about where. I can’t sit here and tell you playing Oneil Cruz at SS is going to win you more games than signing Trea Turner, all I can say is you’ll never know how close Cruz can come to that level of play if he doesn’t play.
The best way this team can truly take a step forward is to add starting quality players, but it’s a balance, and they’ll need to be agile should someone from the system overtake whomever they signed.
You need to hide this post. You’ll be called a shill for BN for not advocating spending $130 million. LOL
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Not sure what if any they will do. Sign Reynolds will help the fan base. Still keep the young players Cruz Newman pitchers an area to see what is available
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I don’t see them keeping Newman since as you said we have an extra middle inf-I see Cruz and maybe Castillo or Marcano becoming the new 2B I like the idea of adding a quality C, but delay seems to be holding his own-I m not impressed with Hienemann as far as being a reliable catcher Bins I see eventually becoming a #2…. Madris I think could be a decent 1B once he gets more accustomed to the position but yes get a !B either in trade or in trade, grab a catcher in the rule V draft if Hunt (TB Rays C) or Geneoves(giants C) is left unprotected again
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Most of this I agree with, but I struggle to see them not releasing Madris. It doesn’t matter how well you play first base if you hit like a pitcher. I also don’t get keeping Allen around, but hey, Josh VanMeter.
Newman I really hope maintains the pace of his most recent month’s worth of action (July 28-August 27): .291/.325/.391. Then maybe someone gives a high-ceiling, low-floor FCL guy or something for him. I’m not even concerned about his lack of power as much as frustrated that he so rarely walks. The one guy on the roster who *should* be hunting walks arguably refuses to more than anyone else! If someone else can teach him that, he could hang on a few more years with fairly regular playing time as a journeyman, but I think that’s the maximum extent. In any case, I fear his defense has been merely average from the metrics I’m viewing, and I can’t say he’s looked a great deal better than that by eye, so I don’t feel there’s anything for the Pirates to gain from keeping him. Let those innings go to Marcano, Bae, etc., and thereby free a spot for a CSN, Mitchell, etc.
Park I really want to succeed, but I’m likewise ready to move on from him. The 2021 MiLB bat appears to have been a flash in the pan, and he’s 26 with more promising guys coming behind. Maybe dare giving him a September recall, but that could risk another Tucker/Alford scenario.
If we’re sticking internal at catcher and disallowing a Perez re-sign, I’d probably go with Delay over Heineman from sheer age and in recognition of Delay having had his moments with the bat, however fleeting. NRI for Heineman and the others on your list. I’d be hesitant to push anyone but Sabol, though they could opt for Bins as placeholder fodder.
Pitching, ugh. Suffice it to say I agree in general and like a lot more how the bullpen is shaping up than the rotation, even acknowledging the LH reliever concern.
Definitely a good starting point for the offseason outlook, good idea.
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Madris was just optioned for Jack today
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Call me a dreamer but..
Sign Josh Bell
Sign Taillon
Sign Roberto Perez
All holes filled. Good veteran leadership.
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Josh Bell is a no for me. Boras client and look at what he’s done since the trade
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Strongly agreed. I take solace in knowing an opposing fan has no clue what he’s talking about when he says something like “The Pirates haven’t had anyone worthwhile since Josh Bell.” It’s somewhat meant as just a name from a few years ago plucked from thin air to fit the insult (Side note: How sad must someone’s day be to feel the need to insult the Pirates or a Pirates fan?), and they obviously have had worthwhile players since. But Bell is nothing special! Two monster power streaks in seven years while a defensive liability. That’s … about … it.
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